MacroVoices #544 Viktor Shvets: How Markets Survive Disruption
Viktor Shvets (Macquarie) reiterates his disinflationary base case — technology and AI push structural costs toward zero — while arguing that trade wars, immigration crackdowns, and the Iran conflict are episodic "spikes" layered on top; he flags the risk that repeated spikes get misread by businesses and workers as permanent, forcing wage/price behavior to change. He calls the Iran war a Vietnam analog with no exit and Russia-Ukraine a Korea analog likely to resolve within roughly a year; he says gold's ~25% drawdown during the war was a temporary flight to USD/Treasury liquidity, not a reversal of gold's role as ultimate crisis hedge over Bitcoin. On markets, he frames AI as a sequence of "rolling bubbles" (commodities, then infrastructure, then robotics/applications) that keeps return concentration high. Patrick Ceresna's trade: long BOTZ (robotics/AI ETF) around $37.50, paired with the August $37 put (~$0.60, 16 days to expiry) as an early, hedged entry into the next rotation.
Core view: disinflation is the trend, policy is the noise. Shvets says he hasn't changed his multi-year call — "we're living in a disinflationary world," driven by technology pushing labor, products, and marginal costs toward zero (he cites Musk's framing that long-run value for labor and most products trends to zero). What looks like a stagflation episode is, in his view, a series of self-inflicted inflationary spikes — COVID, Russia-Ukraine, the Iran war, and "chaotic trade or immigration policies" — layered on that disinflationary base. His counterfactual: under a Harris administration, tariffs and immigration restriction would likely still have tightened, but less violently, and he doubts an Iran war would have happened at all; three-month annualized inflation under Biden was already near 2%, and absent the spikes he thinks inflation today would be at or below target.
The risk Shvets flags for the Fed to watch: repeated "transient" shocks can behave like permanent ones if businesses and workers start expecting the next spike and reprice/bargain accordingly. His tests for whether that's happening: consumer/business surveys (NFIB price-expectation data shows no unanchoring) and inflation breakevens/swaps. During the Iran war, 1- and 2-year swaps spiked toward 3–5%, but 5y5y and 10-year swaps stayed anchored at 2.2–2.4%; post-war, the short end has normalized back below 2%. On his read, that's still consistent with transient, not permanent, inflation.
Fed mechanism: the Supreme Court, per Shvets, has effectively stripped independence from most federal agencies but carved out an exception for the Federal Reserve — a decision he calls intellectually inconsistent but real. He characterizes Kevin Warsh as "not an inflationary hawk or dove" but a politician whose stated goals (less communication, returning risk to markets, shrinking the Fed's footprint) are individually reasonable but operationally unworkable — less communication simply creates "shadow chairs" filling the vacuum. He notes the FOMC currently lacks a dominant voice (Warsh is one vote of 19, controlling 12 at any time) and that dot-plot dispersion on the neutral rate is unusually wide — Stephen Miran's near-zero real neutral rate versus dot-plot estimates near 1–1.5% (implying policy rates of 2.5% versus 3.5–4%, roughly where the Fed sits today). Shvets says both camps are defensible because much of today's risk (polarization, geopolitics, climate, healthcare, tech disruption) sits outside anything a central bank can model — that gap is the source of policy whiplash. His concern: an under-tested, low-consensus Fed chair is fine absent a crisis, but a real emergency in the next six to twelve months would need a chair capable of driving consensus, which Warsh has not yet built.
Geopolitics — two different wars, two different endpoints. Shvets compares the Iran conflict to Vietnam: no clear U.S. objective, no defined victory condition, aerial bombardment historically fails and tends to unify rather than fracture the targeted population, and regime change would require ground occupation the U.S. isn't pursuing. Iran retains alternate chokepoints beyond Hormuz — he points to the Houthi push into the Red Sea as evidence — and modern technology, per the Ukraine precedent, lets smaller/poorer actors rebuild destroyed infrastructure fast, leveling the playing field. He expects the conflict to grind on indefinitely with recurring flare-ups. Russia-Ukraine, by contrast, he compares to Korea: brutal but likely to conclude with a negotiated separation of forces, possibly within a year; his expectation is Ukraine integrates into the EU (agriculture, manufacturing, defense, IT) and evolves toward a
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On the record
| Claim | Speaker | Expression | Horizon | Hedge | At | Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bagnon says the coordinated US-Japan intervention that moved USD/JPY from 163 to 158 could trigger a self-reinforcing short-covering rally in the yen if it holds its gains, forcing further short covering and systematic trend-following buying; the next COT report will show how much of that potential remains. | Masel Bagnon | USD/JPY < 158 | — | hedged | 01:00:35 | OPEN |
| Ceresna recommends buying BOTZ (robotics/AI ETF, ~$37.50) paired with the August $37 protective put (~$0.60 premium, 16 days to expiry) as an early, hedged entry into the next AI 'rolling bubble' rotation into robotics and automation. | Patrick Ceresna | BOTZ ETF price > 37.5 | 2026-08-22 | base-case | 00:50:04 | OPEN |
| Shvets reiterates his multi-year view that the global economy remains structurally disinflationary — driven by technology pushing labor and product costs toward zero — even though episodic inflationary spikes (COVID, wars, trade/immigration policy) are layered on top of that trend. | Viktor Shvets | — | — | high | 00:07:08 | OPEN |
| Shvets warns that repeated 'transient' inflation shocks risk becoming self-fulfilling and effectively permanent if businesses and workers start expecting further spikes and reprice or bargain accordingly — though current data (NFIB price-expectation surveys and 5y5y/10-year inflation swaps anchored at 2.2-2.4%) show no unanchoring yet. | Viktor Shvets | 5y5y forward inflation swap rate between 2.2 | — | base-case | 00:12:20 | OPEN |
| Shvets predicts the Iran conflict will resemble Vietnam — with no clear objective or victory condition — and will grind on indefinitely with recurring flare-ups and alternate chokepoint disruptions (citing Houthi activity in the Red Sea), since aerial bombardment alone cannot achieve regime change without a ground occupation the US isn't pursuing. | Viktor Shvets | — | — | base-case | 00:18:50 | OPEN |
| Shvets predicts the Russia-Ukraine war, unlike Iran, resembles Korea and will likely conclude within about a year (possibly sooner, implied by roughly mid-2027) with a negotiated separation of forces — Ukraine integrating into the EU and evolving toward a South Korea-like economy, Russia toward a milder North Korea. | Viktor Shvets | — | 2027-08-06 | hedged | 00:19:38 | OPEN |
| Shvets argues gold's roughly 25% drawdown during the Iran war reflected a temporary flight to USD/Treasury liquidity rather than a lasting change, and that gold — not Bitcoin or digital assets — remains the ultimate safe-haven asset in a true systemic crisis (monetary meltdown, multiple wars). | Viktor Shvets | — | — | high | 00:21:24 | OPEN |
| Shvets frames AI as a sequence of 'rolling bubbles' — commodities (already peaked), then infrastructure (not yet peaked, with roughly 2-3 more years of runway), then robotics/automation and other applications — arguing this will keep shareholder return concentration high, with as few as 10 stocks delivering up to 50% of market performance in some years. | Viktor Shvets | — | 2029-08-06 | base-case | 00:34:06 | OPEN |